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Parhelic Circle over the Dead Sea, March 7, 2007. The camera is pointing straight upwards. The white parhelic circle passes through the sun and circles around sky, everywhere at the same altitude. The coloured halos at top right are fragments of a 22 degree halo, circumscribed arc and, on the parhelic circle, two sundogs. Had the sun been any higher the sundogs would not have formed. >>


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>> During the Antarctic winter of 1983 (July) temperatures plunged to a record-breaking -89.2°C at the Russian Vostok research station — more than 30°C lower than the average winter temperature. Until this study scientists did not understand why or how the temperature on the vast East Antarctic plateau could hit such an extreme low.

Scientists at British Antarctic Survey (BAS) and the Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute (AARI) in Russia found that for a period of 10 days the air flow that is normally fed from the Southern Ocean on to the high Antarctic plateau almost stopped.

A flow of cold air circling Vostok was preventing the mixing of this warmer air from lower latitudes, isolating the station and causing near optimum cooling conditions. Adding to this was the absence of cloud cover and the layer of tiny particles of ice suspended in the air (known as diamond dust) allowing more heat from the ice surface to be lost to space.

The study was able to successfully simulate the rapid loss of heat over the 10 day period, which will aid the development of climate models used to predict the future evolution of the Antarctic climate system.

Lead author Professor John Turner at BAS says,

“The majority of Antarctica has not yet warmed to the same extent as the Arctic, but over the next century we expect to see this situation change as the effects of greenhouse gas emissions have an impact.

Distinguishing between natural variability and human induced changes to the Earth’s atmospheric climate is at the heart of our research and we wanted to understand why this ‘normal’ weather system was thrown out of balance so severely. Our findings indicate that this was a natural event, but this is an important reminder of just how extreme Earth’s natural events can be and that we must always consider the potential for such anomalies to occur.

The East Antarctic plateau is remote from the ocean and extremely cold, and we believe that Vostok, at an altitude of 3,488m could get even colder, possibly reaching −96°C if an extreme isolation period such as this occurred over a longer period of time. Temperatures may even drop to −100°C at the higher Dome A — the summit of the East Antarctic Ice Cap.

By appreciating that such possibilities can occur and in turn striving to understand the processes that cause them we are better equipped to make predictions for how the planet might react to future changes in polar atmospheric climate.” >>>


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>> The Antarctic ozone hole was once regarded as one of the biggest environmental threats, but the discovery of a previously undiscovered feedback shows that it has instead helped to shield this region from carbon-induced warming over the past two decades, according to scientists at the University of Leeds.

High-speed winds in the area beneath the hole have led to the formation of brighter summertime clouds, which reflect more of the sun's powerful rays.

"These clouds have acted like a mirror to the sun's rays, reflecting the sun's heat away from the surface to the extent that warming from rising carbon emissions has effectively been cancelled out in this region during the summertime," said Ken Carslaw, who co-authored the research.

"If, as seems likely, these winds die down, rising CO2 emissions could then cause the warming of the southern hemisphere to accelerate, which would have an impact on future climate predictions," he added.

The key to this newly-discovered feedback is aerosol -- tiny reflective particles suspended within the air that are known by experts to have a huge impact on climate. Greenhouses gases absorb infrared radiation from the Earth and release it back into the atmosphere as heat, causing the planet to warm up over time. Aerosol works against this by reflecting heat from the sun back into space, cooling the planet as it does so.

Beneath the Antarctic ozone hole, high-speed winds whip up large amounts of sea spray, which contains millions of tiny salt particles. This spray then forms droplets and eventually clouds, and the increased spray over the last two decades has made these clouds brighter and more reflective.

As the ozone layer recovers it is believed that this feedback mechanism could decline in effectiveness, or even be reversed, leading to accelerated warming in the southern hemisphere.

The Leeds team made their prediction using a state-of-the-art global model of aerosols and two decades of meteorological data. >>>


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>> A 10 percent drop in water vapor ten miles above Earth’s surface has had a big impact on global warming, say researchers in a study published online January 28 in the journal Science. The findings might help explain why global surface temperatures have not risen as fast in the last ten years as they did in the 1980s and 1990s.

Observations from satellites and balloons show that stratospheric water vapor has had its ups and downs lately, increasing in the 1980s and 1990s, and then dropping after 2000. The authors show that these changes occurred precisely in a narrow altitude region of the stratosphere where they would have the biggest effects on climate.

Water vapor is a highly variable gas and has long been recognized as an important player in the cocktail of greenhouse gases -- carbon dioxide, methane, halocarbons, nitrous oxide, and others -- that affect climate.

“Current climate models do a remarkable job on water vapor near the surface. But this is different — it’s a thin wedge of the upper atmosphere that packs a wallop from one decade to the next in a way we didn’t expect,” says Susan Solomon, NOAA senior scientist and first author of the study.

Since 2000, water vapor in the stratosphere decreased by about 10 percent.

The reason for the recent decline in water vapor is unknown.

The new study used calculations and models to show that the cooling from this change caused surface temperatures to increase about 25 percent more slowly than they would have otherwise, due only to the increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases.

An increase in stratospheric water vapor in the 1990s likely had the opposite effect of increasing the rate of warming observed during that time by about 30 percent, the authors found.

The stratosphere is a region of the atmosphere from about eight to 30 miles above the Earth’s surface. Water vapor enters the stratosphere mainly as air rises in the tropics. Previous studies suggested that stratospheric water vapor might contribute significantly to climate change.

The new study is the first to relate water vapor in the stratosphere to the specific variations in warming of the past few decades. >>>


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Observed changes in stratospheric water vapour. Black line: balloon measurements of water vapour, taken near Boulder Colorado. Blue diamonds: UARS HALOE satellite measurements. Red diamonds: SAGE II instruments. Turquoise squares: Aura MLS satellite measurements. Uncertainties given by colored bars (Solomon 2010).

>> Solomon 2010 looks at the trend of water vapour in the stratosphere. Before 1993, the only observations of stratospheric water vapor were made by weather balloons above Boulder, Colorado (black line in Figure 2). They observed a slight increase from 1980. After 1993, several different satellites also took measurements (coloured circles, squares and diamonds in Figure 2). The various observations all found a significant drop in stratospheric water vapour around 2000. Most of the change in water vapour occurs in the lower stratosphere, just above the tropopause. The greatest changes also occur in the tropics and subtropics. >>

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>> The decreases seen in this study are in the lower stratosphere and are likely dominated by a change in the flux of water through the tropopause.

If the lower stratospheric water vapour (LSWV) is relaxing back to some norm after the 1997/1998 El Nino, then what we are seeing would be internal variability in the system which might have some implications for feedbacks to increasing GHGs, and my estimate of that would be that this would be an amplifying feedback (warmer SSTs leading to more LSWV). If we are seeing changes to the tropopause temperatures as an indirect impact from increased Asian aerosol emissions or solar-driven ozone changes, then this might be better thought of as impacting the efficacy of those forcings rather than implying some sensitivity change.

The study includes an estimate of the effect of the observed stratospheric water decadal decrease by calculating the radiation flux with and without the change, and comparing this to the increase in CO2 forcing over the same period. This implicitly assumes that the change can be regarded as a forcing. However, whether that is an appropriate calculation or not needs some careful consideration.

Finally, no-one has yet looked at whether climate models (which have plenty of decadal variability too) have phenomena that resemble these observations that might provide some insight into the causes. >>


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 Post subject: Re: ICE CLOUDS
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>> In the absence of a charged surface supercooled water can freeze at temperatures as low as -40°C, and it has been known for over 150 years that the presence of an electrical field can affect the freezing point (a phenomenon known as electrofreezing). The dominant hypothesis for the effect is that because water molecules are polar, with a small negative charge at one end and a positive charge at the other, an electric field would align them according to their charge. It has been difficult to study this phenomenon because charged surfaces (such as metals) act as nucleating agents, and therefore trigger freezing.

Igor Lubomirsky and colleagues from the Weizmann Institute of Science in Rehovot, Israel, have solved the dilemma by creating a charge on a non-nucleating pyroelectric material surface, to allow the electrical effects alone to be examined.

The scientists used lithium tantalate (LiTaO3) crystals and thin films of strontium titanate (SrTiO3) as the non-nucleating surfaces, and placed them in a humid room. They then cooled the room until water droplets formed on the surfaces and then lowered the temperature even further until the droplets froze.

The results showed that in the absence of an electric field the water droplets froze at an average of -12.5°C. If the surface was negatively charged the freezing point was -18°C, while if the surface was positively charged the droplets froze at -7°C. Lubomirsky said the difference in freezing temperatures was surprising. The exact mechanism is unclear, and the team are investigating.

They also found they could freeze liquid supercooled water by heating it. With the surface of an LiTaO3 crystal negatively charged, the water was kept liquid at -11ºC for around 10 minutes, but after the charge dissipated the temperature was increased to induce a positive charge on the surface, and the water froze at -8 ºC. Powder x-ray diffraction studies showed that freezing on the positive surface began at the solid/water interface, while on the negative surface freezing began at the air/water interface.

The experiments demonstrated that if the surface charge is controlled ice formation can be either enhanced or suppressed, and this could possibly have an application in the cryogenic freezing of tissues and blood, or in cloud seeding. >>


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 Post subject: Re: ICE Crystals
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>> Electric fields can affect the growth of ice crystals in several interesting ways, and can be used to grow long thin needles of crystalline ice (see the Designer's Page). The electric effects come about because electric fields influence the way water molecules diffuse through the air in the vicinity of the ice surface. If we charge up a growing crystal, then electrostatics dictates that strong electric fields will be set up around the crystal.

The fields and field gradients will be particularly strong near any sharp points on the crystal. Since water molecules have an intrinsic electric polarizability, the electric fields tend to polarize the water molecules. If the field also has a strong gradient, then the polarized molecules are attracted in the direction of stronger fields.

We analyzed dendrite growth in the presence of an applied voltage [1], for the special case where the growing crystal has no facets. This is simpler than the growth of real ice, but it seems to describe the phenomenon quite well. For a small applied voltage, the dendrite looks about the same as with no voltage, but the tip becomes sharper, and the tip growth velocity increases. This is because electrically enhanced diffusion brings more molecules to the high-voltage tip. The crystal surface tension stabilizes the growth in this case, just as it does for growth without an applied voltage. (For information on normal dendrites see Snowflake Branching.)

fig4a-s.jpg (3007 bytes) Once the applied voltage reaches a certain critical value, however, the crystal growth becomes unstable, and the tip velocity increases dramatically. The image at right shows an electric needle growing out of a normal ice dendrite. A normal dendrite first was grown on a metal wire, and allowed to reach a steady state, where it grew with a constant tip velocity of about 3 microns/sec.

Then a voltage was applied to the wire, and voltage slowly increased with time. As the voltage increased the dendrite tip velocity increased until at 1300 volts it was growing at about 4 microns/sec. The dendrite continued to produce sidebranches as the voltage increased. At 1400 volts an electric needle shot out from the dendrite tip at about 30 microns/sec and kept growing at that velocity.

We believe the electric needle forms because surface tension can no longer stabilize the needle growth, which must be stabilized by some other mechanism. We're not sure what this is, but the leading candidate is tip heating: molecules condense on the tip and heat it up, which prevents the tip from growing too rapidly.

Electric fields also have other odd effects on ice crystal growth. For example, the dendrite at right was grown essentially like the one above. However, when the applied voltage reached a threshold value, no electric needle formed. Instead the tip split, and then the two front branches split again. What happened is that the crystal axis rotated 30 degrees; at the first split, vertical in the image went from a [2 -1 -1 0] axis to a [1 0 -1 0] axis (see the Snowflake Primer). We don't know why this rotation took place, but it happened at just the threshold voltage where normal growth became unstable. This behaviour remains a mystery.

we find that at very high voltages the electric needle growth itself becomes unstable, resulting in the erratic growth (3) >>>

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 Post subject: Re: ICE CLOUDS..Types Conditions
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>> (AP) -- Scientists are peering into the clouds near the top of the world, trying to solve a mystery and learn something new about global warming. The mystery is the droplets of water in the clouds. With the North Pole just 685 miles away, they should be frozen, yet more of them are liquid than anyone expected.

So the scientists working out of a converted blue cargo container are trying to determine whether the clouds are one of the causes - or effects - of Earth's warming atmosphere.

"Much to our surprise, we found that Arctic clouds have got lots of super-cooled liquid water in them.
Liquid water has even been detected in clouds at temperatures as low as minus 30 degrees Celsius (minus 22 F)," said Taneil Uttal, chief of the Clouds and Arctic Research Group at the Earth Systems Research Laboratory of the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA).

"If a cloud is composed of liquid water droplets in the Arctic, instead of ice crystals, then that changes how they will interact with the earth's surface and the atmosphere to reflect, absorb and transmit radiation," said Uttal.

"It's a new science, driven by the fact that everybody doing climate predictions says that clouds are perhaps the single greatest unknown factor in understanding global warming."

With NASA reporting that 2005 was the warmest year on record worldwide, the debate over global warming marches on, but not here. The American and Canadian scientists at the Eureka Weather Station in the northern Canadian territory of Nunavut, like the Inuit who are seeing their native habitat thaw, are beyond questioning the existence of climate change.

"If we compare the debate over the theory of evolution with the debate over the theory of global warming - global warming's a whole lot more certain at the moment," said Jim Drummond, a University of Toronto physics professor and chief investigator for the Canadian Network for the Detection of Atmospheric Change.

"By and large," he said, "we are not now arguing about whether global warming is going to happen; the argument has turned to: How big is it going to be?"

Uttal, Drummond and other American and Canadian scientists recently visited Eureka, an outpost established jointly by Canada and the United States in 1947 and now equipped with instruments that sound like sci-fi inventions - the ozone spectrophotometer, for instance, or the tropospheric lidar. (A lidar, an amalgamation of "light" and "radar," uses laser light to detect atmospheric particles.)

The new technology helps to better understand the impact of clouds on Earth's surface temperature. The clouds being studied here range from six miles high to almost touching the ground.

"For a couple of decades we have known that super-cooled liquid water droplets could exist in clouds," Uttal said. "But the prevalence of it in Arctic clouds was not really known until these specialized sensors starting operating in the Arctic about eight years ago."

"The really exciting thing," she said, will be the ability to track an aerosol layer or an Asian dust cloud from their source and measure their effect on a cloud.

Uttal noted that water clouds are more likely to warm the Arctic atmosphere than ice clouds, since the liquid clouds retain more heat radiated by the Earth's surface. "This means that the ice-to-water ratios in clouds may be very important in controlling the Arctic surface temperatures and how it melts," she said.

In Nunavut, the melting is keenly felt. "In the old days, we used to have 10 months of winter; now it's six," said Simon Awa, an Inuit leader and deputy minister for the environment of Nunavut who was on the trip to Eureka. "Every year we're getting winter later and later."

For these 155,000 people of Canada, Greenland, Russia and the United States, it means less time to hunt caribou, walrus and polar bear. Studies show that average winter temperatures have increased as much as 7 degrees in the Arctic over the last 50 years. The permafrost - ground that is continually frozen for at least two years - is thawing, imperiling polar bears and forcing other animals to migrate farther north.

The walrus have moved farther away, said Awa. "So you're taking more time out, away on the land hunting." Meanwhile, families back home are forced to eat store-bought food that is costlier and less healthy.

"The majority of the world's population hasn't really felt the global warming," said Awa. "But right now in the Arctic and in Nunavut, we're really worried because it's already affecting us. We are a thermometer of the world for what could happen."

Russ Schnell, director of Observatory and Global Network Operations for NOAA, notes that climate change is cyclical - that the planet's vegetation, over millions of years, sucks in and spits out carbon dioxide.

"All the carbon dioxide in the coal and oil was once in the air. The plants took it and it went into the oceans or into the ground - and now we're taking it back out," says Schnell.

"The cycle is the same today, only you're taking something that took 100,000 years and doing it in one hundred years," he said. "There's a point where animals can't change fast enough, there's a point where plants can't change fast enough, so they'll either compete it out or go extinct."


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>> A number of researchers in recent years have reported perplexing findings of water vapour at concentrations as much as twice what they should be in and around cirrus clouds high in the atmosphere, a finding that could alter some conclusions about climate change.

A broad research effort to solve the puzzle and understand just what is occurring in cirrus clouds, wispy sheets of ice crystals 6 to 10 miles above the Earth's surface.

Part of the problem is that many atmospheric scientists have dismissed the findings as erroneous because the current understanding of atmospheric conditions and cirrus clouds would make the water vapour anomaly impossible, Baker said. Yet a number of pieces of evidence published in peer-reviewed journals and presented at scientific meetings during the last six years have supported the finding.

Clouds and particles in the atmosphere play a significant role in regulating the Earth's temperature because they help determine how much of the sun's heat and energy is reflected back into space and they trap outgoing radiation from the Earth's surface. Cirrus clouds also are important in regulating the distribution of water vapour, the most important greenhouse gas, in the upper troposphere.

Cirrus clouds form in the upper troposphere and modulate the exchange of water between the troposphere and the stratosphere. Vapour in the upper troposphere can rise into the stratosphere but tiny ice crystals can fall back toward the surface.

Outside the clouds, there are water vapour and minute atmospheric particles called aerosols, but no ice crystals. Scientists have come to expect that new ice crystals will begin to form in aerosols when vapour levels rise to the point at which they are 60 percent above equilibrium with the surrounding air. Yet measurements have shown that vapour levels can reach 90 percent to 100 percent above equilibrium without forming new ice particles.

Inside the clouds, it is expected that vapour levels above equilibrium cannot be maintained, yet evidence shows that often vapour levels are as much as 30 percent above equilibrium in large areas of clouds.

Scientists have speculated about what causes these anomalies. It is possible the aerosols might have as-yet undiscovered properties that prevent crystals from forming in some conditions, or there could be some kind of coating on the aerosols that prevents ice from forming, Baker said. There also could be some undiscovered property of ice crystals that prevents them from growing in certain conditions.

"There could be a different phase of ice at the temperatures and pressures in cirrus clouds that has a higher equilibrium for vapour," Baker said. "These are the kinds of questions for which we are trying to find answers." >>>


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>> When I, with some colleagues at NASA, attempted to determine how clouds behave under varying temperatures, we discovered what we called an "Iris Effect," wherein upper-level cirrus clouds contracted with increased temperature, providing a very strong negative climate feedback sufficient to greatly reduce the response to increasing CO2.>>
Mr. Lindzen is Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT.


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>> Nighttime clouds detected for the first time on Mars help to keep the planet's surface warm after sunset when temperatures drop, a new study suggests.

The nocturnal clouds are five times thicker than their daytime counterparts and hover close to the ground, almost like a fog.

The study, conducted by researchers at NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), is detailed in the Feb. 1 issue of Geophysical Research Letters.

Clandestine clouds

Martian clouds “both the day and night variety”resemble the wispy and high-flying cirrus clouds on Earth, except they are thicker and found at more variable heights. Previous studies have detected daytime clouds on Mars as high as 62 miles (100 km) above the surface, making them the highest flying clouds ever detected on any planet.

Nighttime clouds are harder to spot. During the day, Martian clouds appear brighter than the planet's surface because they reflect more sunlight. Daytime clouds [image] also stand out in thermal imaging because they are much cooler than the Martian surface.

At night, these differences disappear. There is no longer any sunlight to reflect, and surface temperatures drop until there is hardly any temperature contrast left between Martian cloud and surface.

A temperature anomaly

Nighttime clouds [image] on Mars are predicted from computer models, but none had been directly observed until now. The researchers discovered the stealthy clouds after investigating a temperature anomaly that occurs on the Martian surface at night picked up by the now-lost Mars Global Surveyor (MGS).

"We found that in certain regions the temperature didn't drop as much as we would've expected it to drop"


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>> According to Vladimir Shaidurov of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the apparent rise in average global temperature recorded by scientists over the last hundred years or so could be due to atmospheric changes that are not connected to human emissions of carbon dioxide from the burning of natural gas and oil. Shaidurov explained how changes in the amount of ice crystals at high altitude could damage the layer of thin, high altitude clouds found in the mesosphere that reduce the amount of warming solar radiation reaching the earth's surface.

However, the most potent greenhouse gas is water, explains Shaidurov and it is this compound on which his study focuses. According to Shaidurov, only small changes in the atmospheric levels of water, in the form of vapour and ice crystals can contribute to significant changes to the temperature of the earth's surface, which far outweighs the effects of carbon dioxide and other gases released by human activities. Just a
rise of 1% of water vapour could raise the global average temperature of Earth's surface more then 4 degrees Celsius.
[or severely lower it]

The role of water vapour in controlling our planet's temperature was hinted at almost 150 years ago by Irish scientist John Tyndall. Tyndall, who also provided an explanation as to why the sky is blue, explained the problem: "The strongest radiant heat absorber, is the most important gas controlling Earth's temperature. Without water vapour, he wrote, the Earth's surface would be 'held fast in the iron grip of frost'." Thin clouds at high altitude allow sunlight to reach the earth's surface, but reflect back radiated heat, acting as an insulating greenhouse layer.

Water vapour levels are even less within our control than CO2 levels. According to Andrew E. Dessler of the Texas A & M University writing in 'The Science and Politics of Global Climate Change', "Human activities do not control all greenhouse gases, however. The most powerful greenhouse gas in the atmosphere is water vapour, he says, "Human activities have little direct control over its atmospheric abundance, which is controlled instead by the worldwide balance between evaporation from the oceans and precipitation."

As such, Shaidurov has concluded that only an enormous natural phenomenon, such as an asteroid or comet impact or airburst, could seriously disturb atmospheric water levels, destroying persistent so-called 'silver', or noctilucent, clouds composed of ice crystals in the high altitude mesosphere (50 to 85km). The Tunguska Event was just such an event, and coincides with the period of time during which global temperatures appear to have been rising the most steadily - the twentieth century. There are many hypothetical mechanisms of how this mesosphere catastrophe might have occurred, and future research is needed to provide a definitive answer.


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Notice the spacing between the ripples becomes wider the father they travel away from the source
[Could explain a photon (a compressed packet of light waves/ rarefied) as light travels through space; all waves must travel this way, in 3 dimensions]

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>> Cirrus Cloud:- a rocket rising near the center, but unusual air ripples around it and a colorful sundog to the far right. The rocket, carrying the Solar Dynamics Observatory (SDO), lifted off two weeks ago from Cape Canaveral, Florida, USA into a cold blue sky.

The SDO is designed to observe the Sun continuously over the next several years, exploring the Sun's atmosphere at high resolution and fast time scales.

The air ripples -- seen about one minute after launch -- were unexpected, as was the sudden disappearance of the sundog after the ripples passed. >>

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Ice crystal orientation changes... sound barrier shock waves travelling through the Ice Clouds/supercooled water/ice in the stratosphere


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A gravity wave cloud pattern—analogous to a ship wake—in the downwind zone behind the Île Amsterdam, in the far southern Indian Ocean. The island generates wave motion in the wind passing over it, creating regularly spaced orographic clouds. The wave crests raise and cool the air to form clouds, while the troughs remain too low for cloud formation.


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